I am not an expert but I would say it was down to the pickups. Inner-shredder feeling: both guitars are perfectly valid for shredding/fast playing IMHO. I own two Strats. The tones you can get are nothing like one another. The tone, too, but that was probably due to pickups and wood. Solidbody Electric Guitar with Alder Body, Maple Neck, Rosewood Fingerboard, 1 Humbucking Pickup, 2 Single-coil Pickups, dyna-MIX9 System, and Gotoh Tremolo - Prussian Blue Metallic. link above. Id be curious of your opinions two months from now. I love the inlays, some others don't. Do you find a drop in volume/output with the middle pickup? Since you just posted an NGD, I assume you just got this guitar and are still in the honeymoon phase. You must log in or register to reply here. Az's are cool but I'd go Suhr all day long. thanks. Nemzetkzi hasznlt ra 40-50 14.990 HUF Bayus Heveder br gitrpnt Elad a kpen lthat, j llapot, profi brheveder - a bolti rnak 62 %-rt: https://arkadiahangsze Foxpost is mehet! I have a question about the necks. I would swear they were at the same height. Some people find the Strats closer position in the way of their picking hand, and the AZ follows the RGs practice of moving it a little further away. The budget-friendly equivalent - the AZ Essentials series - carries the torch well, delivering one of the best budget Strat-style guitars around. One thing to remember is that because necks are 'hand-finished' they can vary from guitar to guitar. Products and specifications are subject to change without notice. Aktv 6 hros basszusgitr hangszed szett, az egyszerre tiszta, meleg s ts hangzs rdekben. I play a very wide assortment of Rock. This page was generated at 03:03 AM. I feel the J.Custom's rounded fret edges and softer neck back (velvetouch, lol) as well as Edge Pro (vs Floyd), on top of the wood binded neck and absolutely 0 neck pocket set it above the Suhr. Pickups: Suhr SSV humbucker (bridge), Suhr V60LP . I have the Premium AZ242 and I'm still utterly shocked how well it stays in tune for a non-locking system. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) b: Width of the neck at the fret position specified by the neck dimension. The owners cashed out a long time ago when they were purchased, so they're doing fine. I agree with your friends. Most Successful Signature Guitar Of All Time. Which, I like strats. I am a terrible guitar player so a better guitar will not make me better, but I can feel a difference between a 200 guitar and a 1000 axe, quality of build, pickups, electronics, hardware, etc. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Seconding Lars here, roasted maple doesnt need to be oiled. But way more different than I thought. And I didn't gel with the stock pickups in my Modern, so it has DiMarzios now. For beginners, the extra push will be . JavaScript is disabled. The ergonomics of the Ibanez are probably a bit more modern and the higher frets feel more accessible. Ignoring looks and price, which would you rather own? Most everything built these days is cnc machined, with polyester finishes. At the first frets, the neck seems very thin. Was the ibanez more compressed acoustically, when you strummed the two unplugged, or was it as resonant unplugged but the pickups were making it more compressed? Super short answer to what is not overpriced in my view? Well, I think solid body guitars are overpriced in general, but you can often find differences that I could find justifiable up to around USD$700. I used to have an RG in pearl white. Not a massive difference between the Ibanez and Fender here. My only complaint about it was that the neck was too thin for my taste, but it's a matter of preference - some people prefer thinner necks. AZ is basically the spiritual descendant of the older higher end RG Prestige from the early 00s. I didnt try the real HSS ultra but based on the SSS and AP2 HSS. Heck, you can even love either one, though of course psychologically it's easier to love the guitar that's more expensive. Both felt like a shreddier improvement. Does it make toast? . a: Width of the neck at the nut. c: Thickness of the neck at the first fret. #37. It will have a thicker-than-typical neck for an Ibanez, but probably still thinner than average and I wouldnt be surprised if its a hair thinner than that Fender. Is a comparable Suhr worth $1000 extra? Copyright 2023 Ibanez guitars. The amazing bit to me is doing the trem swell at the beginning of Satch Boogie. On paper, elliptical is too thin for me if it was a c shape. The Ibanez AZ is basically their take on a Suhr Modern, and isnt really their traditional RG style superstrat. Radius : 430mmR. May 9, 2014. Switches, potentiometers and capacitors are usually fine on all but the cheapest of cheap guitars, but high-quality replacements can be bought cheap from places like mouser.com. The Prestige stuff is top notch. I know a lot of you have been wanting me to take a look at a Suhr, so here you go. If theres any way you can play one, youll probably come close to doubling the cost, but if nothing else itll help you put the AZ into context. (Not sure if I'll get/want a hardtail or a bar.) So, in summary very different guitars! Im looking at potentially purchasing one of these very soon. I will consider an Ultra or other American model in the future (maybe). The AZ neck was a joy to play. Prestige combines high-tech manufacturing techniques with old-world Japanese craftsmanship, in order to achieve true innovation in design and construction. I believe after looking into it that its an SSH+. The Ibanez is truly a tool for someone who wants every dollar spent on things that will affect your playing and tonal experience. I can tell the difference between a USD$300 Strat and a USD$1500 Strat, but those differences generally wont make a difference to how well Ill be able to play on it, or how much Ill enjoy it (with the exception of whether I specifically hate the pickups on a cheap guitar, but I can do a full pickup replacement that will suit my taste for max of about $300 if I have to). I believe its just a fluke occurrence. Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. Hes owned it for less than a year I have a few other friends who own Suhrs and none of them have had that issue. These are both strat style guitars, but they have less in common than they might seem to at a glance. And hopefully many happy years ahead (and no fretboard oiling! I can live with either. The two guitars are very different. Possibly because of the contrast, the neck pickup alone feels very bland and kind of muddy. Speaking of electronics, the Suhr volume pot is somehow defective, crackling like crazy while adjusting it. I also had my AZ when I bought a Suhr Modern Pro. Deoxit usually works magic. So having both of these guitars to mess around with, I thought I'd A/B their sound/feel/quality. Suhr all day long. [.] The Ibanez website mentioned a flat 12" radius - if its actually a 12-16", and if thew stainless fretwork was good enough not to be a concern, then Id be strongly considering that and a pickup swap in your shoes. In Bangladesh, guitar players in smaller villages know about Suhr guitars. Az SMS-t 9.990 HUF I was just playing my ibanez js2450 and Suhr modern satin. check out the FAQ by clicking the Carrying this ethos forward, the AZ line embodies time-tested Ibanez innovation and player-focused features like a smooth, oval neck grip, a well . Ibanez - way more compressed (higher output). AZS2209H. It may not display this or other websites correctly. That Fender, meanwhile, is just an upgraded, modified Strat. Kinda dig the 5120 - maple board and flip flop paint instant cyberpunk. So I've been doing research on buying a new guitar for a while now, and basically what I'm looking for is: I was finally settled on Ibanez AZ2402 but now many people are saying if I'm willing to pay that much I might as well go for the Suhr modern satin which is like 400 pounds more. - Suhr - Chavel - Ibanez - IBANEZ AZ .. Japan (Prestige) 8X,XXX Indo (Premium) 4x,xxx It is not dead ringer, but is has some quack. Being a musician I, like the vast majority of those in the arts, am never rolling in dough. Players, Bands, Sounds, Tours, Lessons & Theory! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Still, I could feel the difference just not a thousand miles off. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Wowsa! I have an AZ 2204f. Players get their 'cheap Suhr,' Ibanez gets their business, and folks that may not have been in the market for a Suhr in the first place might now want. That's a very fine band and you are a very fine guitar player! Plugged into our clean Suhr Badger, we select the neck position to find that it packs a pleasing punch. The pricing isn't so simple either though, That blue Ibanez AZ costs 200 more than a Suhr Modern Satin does, they are expensive to such a degree that even in the case of more expensive Suhrs, if . i don't feel too bad for them, i'm sure their bank acct has several more commas than mine so they must be doing something right. Ibanez have expanded their lineup this year with a new series called the AZ line! In the case of these guitars, this combined with the pickups, pretty much makes up the whole sonic signature of the instrument. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ibanez Jem: Suhr Modern: The noiseless pickups reduce a lot of the hum, which is fantastic and a great feature. For 1600 you get a 4a top, chambered body, and roasted maple neck. They both have roasted maple necks, stainless steel frets, locking tunerswhat's the difference?Pickups: SSV Neck, SSH+ Bridge PickupFace portion was shot with a new camera. It doesnt even really need to be finished to remain stable - the roasting process dries out the wood pretty thoroughly, making it extremely stable, though I suspect the Ibanez has a matte finish on the neck anyway. Some people refuse to buy any guitar made in China, but many made in China guitars are fine. The philosophy behind this series is to bring the tone, versatility and, playability of this celebrated lineup to a wider array of beginner and intermediate players. -Greg. I am a lazy bastard and will not spend my days oiling the fretboard. it's just that everyone seems to think that suhrs are above everything else, and I wanted to know if that's really the case or just an internet thing. Totally different concept and tonal options that do not overlap as much as I expected with Fender. And I didn't gel with the stock pickups in my Modern, so it has DiMarzios now. Fretwork isn't always great on a Prestige either but generally better than Premium, yes. IBANEZ AZS!. We measure a DC resistance of 6.6 ohms, which isn't far from vintage territory. Are some toasters nicer than others. Open to your thoughts, experiences & research on Suhr and Anderson guitars. I might buy one again if used prices go down again. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Basically the general characteristics of Suhrs as compared to the major manufacturers were the roasted maple necks, SS frets, transparent finished bodies, and pickups that lean to the "hot" side but are generally more versatile than their metal-oriented counterparts. The Suhr page below about replacement arms summarizes the 510 variants Suhr uses (a 2-post solid saddle version, a 2-post bent-saddle version, and a 6-screw bent-saddle version). If you're using a bar lime Timmons would, then you'll find it will perform to that level well. Im used to a 9.5 across the whole fretboard and love it. Come join the discussion about collections, displays, models, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Hard to say. . Also, I think you are right about the flat 12 radius. I had a Charvel DK24 on my hit list, too, as a high-quality more affordable 24-fret guitar. There was a time when the necks and bodies on cheap guitars were frequently problematic, but those days are mostly gone. The satin line is built in the same regard that John Suhr uses with the customs and you can expect the same build quality out of the satin line. I honestly don't think my issue is a fret issue as much as a possible neck pocket issue. Having checked out the AZ line, and getting a Kiesel Delos I'd go with the Kiesel 100% of the time. What's your favorite 335 style guitar for under $1000 used? This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Tried both on a Boss Katana 100w at the shop using clean, crunch, and brown channels. For pots, look for something as close to true log taper as possible and with a high rotational life. Let's take a look and see if this high-end custom shop guitar. Downside is that stainless frets, while awesome, will be a lot harder and more expensive to have dressed, if you have any high frets to deal with. IMO you should go with the Prestige AZ but that's me. They also come in 6 and 7 string multi scale for a little more. This is so true and reinforced after actually trying them. Does the toast taste any different? I enjoyed the comparison, OP. The 2/4 positions and the middle single coil sound great. 1 Wisdom. This requires a little explanation. For the money they are hard to beat IMO. Dirtier and higher gain tones felt more compressed. Features: - Alder Body - Roasted Maple Fretboard - Jumbo Stainless Frets - Seymour Duncan Hyperion Pickups - Bone Nut - Gotoh T1802 Tremolo You could get a sweet amp or pedals or something fun with that. Yeah, the EB Cutlass is a good deal, but I was thinking more of something like the Sabre. I would add to this that really the biggest issue you may come across with this these days is really the finishing fret work on the neck. Sounds like a dirty pot. Finally, eh? Let's hear the 22 fret against the Suhr Classic and AT100. Elad ez a remek mini distortion pedl, ami a hres Suhr Riot pedl hangzst idzi. IMO great instruments vs the similar suhrs/anderson builds they stack up well at a good price point. The only exception is the Aura series. Having played both and owned the Ibanez premium 224 I would say the Ibanez felt a little nicer than the Schecter. But the Japanese guitars Ive purchased have been also flawless with one major exception. If they had invented something different and unique and then someone else took their people then maybe you could feel bad. NPOD - New Kirk Hammett Guitars / Black Metal. The difference between my 600 MIM strat and a fancy 1500 American pro II with a similar build is more negligeable than it should (its certainly not even twice better, despite the price gap). I don't care what it is, there will always be more $1000 guitars sold than $3000 to $4000 guitars. I must have mixed it up with some of the Charvels I tried (I tried almost 15 guitars!). The noiseless pickups sort of make up for this. This is a forum where guitarists, from novice to experienced, can explore the world of guitar through a variety of media and discussion. For me, medium-jumbo is about as small as I can comfortably play. You can read more about our Privacy Policy. Yep, Im a touring (well, you know, until last year) musician and music teacher by profession and can never quite afford the gear I want. Suhr Ibanez AZ Fender Ultra vs StratocasterSuhr ClassicIbanez AZNFender MB 60s AZ2402 COLOR VARIATION TFF : Tri-fade Burst Flat SHARE AZ SPEC SPECS neck type AZ Oval C S-TECH WOOD Roasted Maple neck top/back/body Alder body fretboard S-TECH WOOD Roasted MapleBlack dot inlay fret Jumbo Stainless Steel fretsPrestige fret edge treatment bridge Gotoh T1802 tremolo bridge string space 10.5mm . I have yet to buy one with perfect fretwork, which is an area where companies like Suhr and Anderson excel. The other is a I think its a 2014 American Standard body, 2012 or 14 American Deluxe neck, with a set of Suhr piclkups (they make spectacular singlecoils, their ML Standards are the best Ive played and only a couple bucks more expensive than a set of Fenders), a Hipshot Contour bridge, and a set of Fender, I think, locking tuners. There are quite a few differences between the two inc the scale length and fretboard radius which can change the way it feels to play as well. The Ultra sounds like a strat: dynamic, transparent, sparky? 1979 Frets: 84. Though the price range of the AZ series isn't low (around $1300 US for the Premium Indonesian models and $2000+ for the Prestige Japanese models), they are generally a more affordable option . https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/8gwnnl/gear_discussion_ibanez_az_hss/?utm_source=reddit-android. The AZ series uses Duncans. There are three principles behind the Ibanez Prestige line: Precision, Performance, and Playability. Taking adaptability to new extremes, the AZ series has established itself and carved out a place that spans everything from the warmest blues licks, to the most intense, shred-heavy metal riffs. Im not 100% on the Suhr, I know theyre Suhr branded pickups and the bridge pickup is the super hot one rated at something like 17k. I dont strongly dislike it as its own pickup but I feel like it doesnt match the middle or neck particularly well. A bit disappointing considering the price tag, but probably something I can live with. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Two suggestions, though, if you want to open your mind to someting else - one more expensive one less. In some way, these are all Fender-style guitars. Close. 6 reviews Write your review Item ID: AZ2204NPBM. ibanez saitosuhribanez It means the endorsement is genuinely about the gear and not a pay check. Design: the Ultra looks like a Strat! You can do great things with either one. HA! $ 2,599 .99. Both the prestige and premium lines of that series do. On the Tom Quayle, I used 4 out of 10 positions. The bridge pickup screams - much more than I like as mainly a fusion player. Ive had my eye on a prestige AZ for a while as they check so many boxes. You are using an out of date browser. Some Gios are also becoming a bit fancier these days, with sparkle finishes, gold, and figured veneers. Great stuff for versatility but something I will probably only use twice as a gimmick. What's your favorite 335 style guitar for under $1000 used? The craftsmanship is also incredibly high all round. All are welcome, from seasoned pros to absolute beginners. As great as the JS is, the Suhr is just on a different level. It partly comes down to what a person values in a guitar. But for me, I wouldnt be willing to pay triple the price over that sort of thing. EDIT 2: well it kinda looks like a strat and a jaguar had a child so if you like how that looks it's only about 200 pounds more expensive. One is the '97 American Standard I bought new more than two decades ago and will go to the grave with me. . If this isnt a guitar you could see yourself playing for the next ten to twenty years, then dont buy it. Radius: Radius of the fingerboard. I like a TUSQ XL nut, and thats around USD$10. The middle pickup felt quieter and there was a slight volume drop when switching into that position 3. I didn't care for the AZ I tried. Guitar Neck Diagram.

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